Golden Skate Awards 2012 - Turin, Italy 20.10.2012

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Re: Golden Skate Awards 2012 - Turin, Italy 20.10.2012

Postby cekoni » 22 Oct 2012, 13:03

simona wrote:My personal translation with some Google help..

FIGURESKATING 21/10/2012 - INTERVIEW
Plushenko: "I'm gonna win in Sochi and then I'll come to live in Italy"
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Many thanks Simona! :plush40:

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Here is one more Italian article... :plush45:
http://www.torinotoday.it/eventi/golden ... henko.html

Le Stelle del Ghiaccio incantano Torino: in delirio per Plushenko
Il Golden Skate Awards, l'evento pià atteso del 2012 per tutti gli appassionati di pattinaggio su ghiaccio non delude le aspettative

I Grandi del pattinaggio artistico non deludono e lasciano a bocca aperta il pubblico del Palavela, il Golden Skate Awards, l'evento più atteso per tutti gli appassionati del ghiaccio torna a stupire tra coreografie ed evoluzioni mozzafiato.

Quando entra in pista il grandissimo Evgeni Plushenko, il pubblico non si trattiene e gli applausi sono tutti per lui che è il primo pattinatore ad essersi aggiudicato tre medaglie consecutive ai Giochi Olimpici ed attuale detentore del record mondiale per il punteggio più alto mai ottenuto da un atleta. Plushenko ha comunicato di voler partecipare alle prossime Olimpiadi di Sochi 2014 nella sua terra natale. A rapire i cuori delle torinesi ci pensa Stephane Lambiel, medaglia d'argento alle Olimpiadi di Torino, che con i suoi volteggi non delude, nemmeno quando sbagliando un atterraggio finisce a terra. Dopo di loro hanno solcato il ghiaccio artisti del calibro del canadese Elvis Stojko, e di Laura Lepisto , Irina Slutskaya e Elizaveta Tuktamysheva. :hi_hi_hi:

Nel Pattinaggio di coppia si son esibiti Tatiana Ivanovna Totmianina e Maxim Marinin, Campioni Olimpici 2006 , due volte Campioni del Mondo e cinque volte Campioni Europei, Margarita Dobriasko e Povilas Vanagas, Medaglia di Bronzo ai Campionati del Mondo del 2000, due volte Medaglia di Bronzo ai Campionati Europei e due volte Medaglia di Bronzo alle Finali del Grand Prix e la giovanissima coppia russa di danza su ghiaccio formata da Elena Ilinykh & Nikita Katsapalovi, Campioni del Mondo nella categoria Juniores nel 2010. Tra gli italiani spicca la coppia di artistico Nicole Della Monica & Matteo Guarise, Campionessa Nazionale per due anni consecutivi
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Re: Golden Skate Awards 2012 - Turin, Italy 20.10.2012

Postby cekoni » 22 Oct 2012, 13:18

More homevideos....

... by Lelo ... :plush39:

GSA 2012 Practice Plushenko Jump:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipQCyu5CP3Y

GSA 2012 Practice Plushenko 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIMhK6pyQcc

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Turin Golden Skate Awards 2012: .. Storm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TvDkG4skOQ


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All videos in this Playlist - 2012-10-20 Golden Skate Awards, Turin Italy: :plush45:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... d7v2EnGTcH
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Re: Golden Skate Awards 2012 - Turin, Italy 20.10.2012

Postby cekoni » 22 Oct 2012, 15:27

dustman wrote:PATTINAGGIO
21/10/2012 - INTERVISTA
http://www.lastampa.it/2012/10/21/sport ... agina.html

Plushenko: “Vinco a Sochi e poi vengo a vivere in Italia”
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Russian translation... :ni_zia:

Плющенко: «Стану победителем в Сочи, а потом буду жить в Италии»
("La Stampa", Италия): http://inosmi.ru/sport/20121022/201250334.html
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Re: Golden Skate Awards 2012 - Turin, Italy 20.10.2012

Postby cekoni » 22 Oct 2012, 16:05

Lelo's homevideo :plush39:

GSA 2012 Plushenko Best of Saint Saens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlZOvZtCfM8

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Re: Golden Skate Awards 2012 - Turin, Italy 20.10.2012

Postby cekoni » 22 Oct 2012, 16:24

Lelo's "report" on Italian.... :plush45:

‏@lelo546: Soon english translation: GOLDEN SKATE AWARDS 2012
http://evgeniplushenkoitalia.blogspot.c ... -2012.html
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Re: Golden Skate Awards 2012 - Turin, Italy 20.10.2012

Postby lala630312 » 22 Oct 2012, 17:08

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lala630312 wrote:Girls! I have seen Plushy's Swan many times, and I love it!! :son-ce: But I don't understand, why they didn't use COP expert, when they choreographed the program? :plush38: I know they improved this thing, but more needs to be dealt with it. Zhenya can collect many points easy way!!!! I'm not an expert, I had this thought, when i watched the Skate America. What do you think?


Plushy said in interview that he will respect the rule so I guess he will continue polishing his program. However I doubt the end result will be very COP friendly as other top skaters. If we look at results from JO, he has level 4 steps, the spins (he got 2,3,4 levels for 3 spin sets) still can be improved. His weakness on PCS is TR and CH which I believe he is working on it. And if he skated clean, there are also room for improvement on PE and IN.

If you are referring to the jumping layout, I actually gave it some thinking. The popular points grabbing programs normally has a jumping layout of 3-5 by putting one or two sets of spins and one set of steps in the first half of the program, which is physically demanding for the jumps putting at the second half of the program. Sure Plushy can add some more transitions (choreographed dancing movements) in for the current program, but it will never be a 3-5 type program. Moreover, from music arrange point of view, it is not so easy to make it very COP friendly:

1. It is not possible to put the either steps in the first half of the program because they suit the music which are on the second half;
2. To front load spins also might influence the jumps so it is also not very likely since if the plan is 2 quads and 2 3A;

But Plushy is working on it for sure!!! The music has already changed from the initial version (also the version used on JO) by shorten the first part and extended the third part. Which means the jumping layout would change from 6-2 to 5-3. Of course 4-4 would be wonderful but it will depend on how Plushy's body can take. If you compare the JO and KOI version, you could also find changes in the choreography. I have not compared this version with the KOI version yet, but the potential is there :-)


Thank you for your answer! :plush39: I believe Plushy and Mishin know what to do. :plush45:
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Re: Golden Skate Awards 2012 - Turin, Italy 20.10.2012

Postby lala630312 » 22 Oct 2012, 17:20

clairdelalune wrote:
IMO Evgeni should work on: SS, CH, TR. With two quads and improved SS and TR, the judges will forget his program is not so COP friendly as other programs. :co_ol: :a_g_a:


Do you think? I hope so... :plush45:
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Re: Golden Skate Awards 2012 - Turin, Italy 20.10.2012

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Re: Golden Skate Awards 2012 - Turin, Italy 20.10.2012

Postby lala630312 » 22 Oct 2012, 17:56

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lala630312 wrote:Girls! I have seen Plushy's Swan many times, and I love it!! :son-ce: But I don't understand, why they didn't use COP expert, when they choreographed the program? :plush38: I know they improved this thing, but more needs to be dealt with it. Zhenya can collect many points easy way!!!! I'm not an expert, I had this thought, when i watched the Skate America. What do you think?


Well, I don't know who would count as a "COP expert" in this sense...(After all, Sergei Petukhov choreographed the first Olympic gold program in men's singles under the COP :-) ) Evgeni worked with several choreographers this summer, including Camerlengo and Miyamoto, and even if he and Mishin decided in the end not to use the specific program by Miyamoto, they still incorporated moves from those choreographers into this program.

With the program itself, I wanted to mention that I personally really like the new things they did to the music. In terms of points, I don't know if you can compare the level of difficulty of programs at a show vs. at a competition....The step sequence was level 4 at JO, the spins weren't all at high levels yet at JO, but Evgeni really never had problems with spin levels (usually they're two level 4s and one level 3, IIRC). So I think it's mostly the jump placement (at the JO, there were 6 jumps in the first half and 2 in the second half) where the program isn't optimized yet (from the TES point of view), and from what Evgeni seems to be doing at KOI and this time at GSA, I have a (not necessarily too well-founded) guess that they want to change something in that direction too. But given the fact that he seems to be planning two quads and two 3As for the LP this season, there are questions of physical stamina to worry about, of course. If you look at SA, and how the skaters performed there....What is the point of a program optimized for collecting more points if you can't skate it cleanly? As for transitions, there is already more there than for instance at the test skate. But in the end, I also think that for Evgeni, it is very important that the program works as an artistic whole.

The demands of skating a free program with a full set of difficult jumps, spins and step sequences (not to mention transitions) on any skater is massive. So for myself, I really don't want to ever say Evgeni can "easily" get more points by, say, putting in more of transitions, spin levels, more jumps in the second half, etc. Because none of it is ever easy. I am absolutely certain that Evgeni and his team knows the rules and issues of the COP.


Thank you for your post, i just noticed ! Yes, I thought similar things..Can do quad or 3A with short preparation, but it's impossible to do cleanly, in most cases. Doesn't make sense..A little bit more TR and 5:3 layout in terms of the jumps.
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Re: Golden Skate Awards 2012 - Turin, Italy 20.10.2012

Postby Kudryavka » 22 Oct 2012, 18:22

clairdelalune wrote:IMO Evgeni should work on: SS, CH, TR. With two quads and improved SS and TR, the judges will forget his program is not so COP friendly as other programs. :co_ol: :a_g_a:

Don't you read Evgeni's recent interview? He is working on what you want, especially on SS.
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