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Website · by **dimi** » 30 Nov 2010, 23:38

Yes choreography helped Lysacek who was a mediocre bad skater to be Olympic Champion, so maybe this is its significance. We had the same conversation before Vancouver about Plu programs and you told me the same, I know they do their best, we are just talking here. You make me look like I m the bad one and like I dont approve of Plushy's choices...

If you look this season, program is important for everyone, they changed the tune. If someone wants to compete he needs to compete with the current rules, and have a CoP choreographer, not just a choreographer, all the programs you mentioned before it is in 6.0 era, and I agree, David made a GREAT work back then.
I dont mean he needs Tarasova, for god's shake, I meant one choreographer that suits his style is Tarasova. Also Carmelego, or and Shan Lyn Bourne would be nice.
You always say David and Mishin know what they do, and then you cried in Vancouver , all of us. I m not judging, I m proposing since he is the one who gets up to train in the morning, not me that I m sleeping. I just dont want him to be sad ever again or upset. Plushy has a non end in his abilities choreographically, he has the best extention and body line of all men and contrary to japanese he is tall and more dominant as a figure, it is nice to explore more things. Of course I love whatever he does anyway, just ideas we have.

watch Takahashi's La Strada or this program http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjZxrwPocrM of Abott this season (forget the skater) and see what is choreography in CoP is meant to be, I know you said I dont care about other skaters but he competes with these skaters, thats why i m watching.

by **Дарина** » 30 Nov 2010, 23:46

And anyway all athletes create the choreography with the main choreographer like Nichol or Wilson in one week, they dont stay with him forever. One week with Tarasova is not such big deal.

dimi, to spend a week with her is to listen about her great contribution to Zhenya's success for the rest of his life. :hi_hi_hi:

Program is important >Lysacek

Lysacek is a theorist of the FS, almost a professor, like Mishin :pisa_tel:

Ириша, девушки говорят, это был бы классный ход - позвать Тарасову :-):

Был бы грандиозный пиар, да и хореограф она хороший.

by **lala630312** » 30 Nov 2010, 23:47

Dimi! I understand you!! :co_ol:

Website · by **dimi** » 30 Nov 2010, 23:51

Lysacek is a theorist of the FS, almost a professor, like Mishin

NO i meant look at the miracles smart choreography did to Lysacek. :plush34:

As a skater he didnt deserve same pcs scores as Evgeni, he is much inferior.

by **Дарина** » 01 Dec 2010, 00:02

dimi wrote:Yes choreography helped Lysacek

It was not choreography who helped him...

If you look this season, program is important for everyone

That's true!
But Mishin promised a lot of transitions in their new programs. :-):

And they have a new choreographer now.

You make me look like I m the bad one and like I dont approve of Plushy's choices...

Never! Nobody thinks so :ki_ss:

Website · by **dimi** » 01 Dec 2010, 00:19

Дарина wrote:It was not choreography who helped him...

I know what helped him...but he gave the judges every excuse to concider putting him such high marks and the rest of west world to concider him an artist :ze_le_ny:

His program for all the nightmare of a program it was very well constructed to have points and with help of judges to win. Especially his sp. And it is not only Lysacek, it was also Takahashi.

by **maolmi** » 01 Dec 2010, 00:27

Dimi,i understand and share your concerns but this proposal
is unrealistic.There is no way Plushy will work with TAT.

by **cekoni** » 01 Dec 2010, 00:31

dimi wrote:Yes choreography helped Lysacek who was a mediocre bad skater to be Olympic Champion, so maybe this is its significance. We had the same conversation before Vancouver about Plu programs and you told me the same, I know they do their best, we are just talking here. You make me look like I m the bad one and like I dont approve of Plushy's choices..

No, I do not think so, and you that very well know :plush36:

dimi wrote:...
NO i meant look at the miracles smart choreography did to Lysacek. As a skater he didnt deserve same pcs scores as Evgeni, he is much inferior.

I agree, I'm also told 1000 times :plush34:

- Plushy will with little more "cunning" choreography :mi_ga_et:

with much less effort - everyone wins! :plush45:

... and I am just joking about Lori :)-(:

by **cekoni** » 01 Dec 2010, 00:34

dimi wrote:
Дарина wrote:It was not choreography who helped him...

I know what helped him...but he gave the judges every excuse to concider putting him such high marks and the rest of west world to concider him an artist ...

N/A media declared him an "artist" .... since it is very ambiguous and unproven category :ps_ih:

Website · by **dimi** » 01 Dec 2010, 01:08

maybe it is unrealistic to work with Tarasova..I dont know how things are in russia between them, I just thought she is supportive of Evgeni in videos and interviews and everyone can work for good results at Sochi now..I really dont know much about their relatioship now. Just that her drama style in choreo suits Evgeni and she is Russian. Anyway Carmelego is doing miracle programs, bravura style like Plush's. I d like him to experiment with anything in the seasons till Sochi and in Sochi to skate to Russian music :plush33:

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