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Re: Другие интересные новости || Other interesting news

Postby Lotus » 12 Feb 2012, 09:02

Вроде Вайцеховская сама была спортсменкой, и она не понимает что для спортсмена мотивация ЭТО МЕДАЛИ, тем более для ЕП это много медалей. :plush11:
Евгений сам сказал в одном из последних интервью, что в Сочи будет возможность побороться за 2 медали! :mi_ga_et:

Мне кажется она только из-за этого бесится, так как не понимать таких элементарных вещей нормальный человек прсто не может!
И никакой злости у Евгения в Шиффилде не было, концентрация- да, выполнение поставленной задачи -да, жажда борьбы-да, радость победы над собой -да и не более того!

но такую лажу нести с тв в массы, это просто криминал полный.... и мужик там тоже сидит лыбится :kli_ny: и откуда такие кадры на тв только беруться...говорить русскому народу по ЕГО тв, типа ты дурак и ничтожество... она там еще и про другие виды спорта говорила...
Всё будет как должно быть..
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Re: Другие интересные новости || Other interesting news

Postby Грин » 12 Feb 2012, 18:52

Да, уж , нашли кому давать слово на ТВ. И ведущий, даже не знаю, кто это такой, не вызывает симпатии.
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Re: Другие интересные новости || Other interesting news

Postby Грин » 12 Feb 2012, 18:59

Прочитала интервью Ш. и Д.Керр. Да - это просто невероятно! Женя - уникальный фигурист! Ну кто бы еще мог в течение 15 лет выступать на таком высоком уровне! Таких просто нет. И они тоже считают, что золото Ванкувера должно быть его!.
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Re: Другие интересные новости || Other interesting news

Postby Наталья Р. » 13 Feb 2012, 22:17

Спасибо всем за прием!!! :plush39:

cekoni wrote:
- Евгений Плющенко уже дважды уходил – и возвращался. Вы его понимаете?

Д.К. – Понимаю. Плющенко – настоящий и, наверное, величайший турнирный боец за всю современную историю мужского одиночного катания. Это просто невероятно – 15-летняя карьера, три олимпийские медали, одна из них – золотая, а могло быть и две. Так долго выступать на высочайшем уровне – это просто невероятно.



Конечно, настоящие спортсмены его понимают. :-):
Я Женю все время с Шумахером сравниваю. Очень похожие спортивные биографии. Только Михаэль после возвращения не выигрывает, а наше солнце рвет всех. :hi_hi_hi:
Мужское одиночное катание на льду – исключительно благодаря Плющенко! - остается катанием мужчин, и уже никогда не превратится в шоу трансвеститов. (с)

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Re: Другие интересные новости || Other interesting news

Postby Наталья Р. » 16 Feb 2012, 22:21

Очень хорошо помню тот ЗАМЕЧАТЕЛЬНЫЙ день!!! :plush31:
Женечку, с главной победой!!! plush48
Как говориться, Бог даст не последняя!!!
ЛЮБИМ!!! ВЕРИМ!!! :son-ce:
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Re: Другие интересные новости || Other interesting news

Postby cekoni » 20 Feb 2012, 07:57

Plushy was then so young (19 yo) :plush33: and still managed later to rise in Free Skate! :plush41: :bra_vo:
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2002 Olympics look back: Yagudin leads quad fest, Plushenko falls

Just a day after the pairs’ free skate in Salt Lake City, the figure skating world was moving on to the men’s short program, not knowing that what happened the day before was about to usher in a historic shift in figure skating within a matter of days. But everyone had their eyes set on the Alexei Yagudin-Evgeni Plushenko showdown, though no one would have imagined that Plushenko would take a fall that would make the path to gold for Yagudin so much clearer.

Quads galore

The 2002 Olympics was an incredible showing of technical prowess from the men. Though the first official quad toe was done in 1988 and there had been a few done in the Olympics since, the big influx of quad jumps came in 2002. The first skater in the short program, three-time U.S. champion Michael Weiss, started off the competition with a two-footed quad toe, and later Yagudin his the first quad toe-triple toe in Olympic history, and then 2001 U.S. champion Timothy Goebel landed the first quad salchow-triple toe in Olympic history.

The technical content in the men’s event that week would not be rivaled again for another decade. And that’s just the short program ….

Yagudin was superb, skating one of the greatest short programs in Olympic history, hitting all of his elements with ease. But Takeshi Honda, who followed Yagudin in the short, skated the short program of his career and matched Yagudin element-by-element and was arguably just as exciting. His second-place standing was well-deserved.

Goebel led the Americans, also hitting a clean short to go in third ahead of Plushenko. It was probably the shock of the night, as Plushenko’s normally consistent quad toe failed him. In addition to the fall, the jump itself was also underrotated. And though fourth place did not mathematically take him out of the running for gold, it would take some shuffling in the standings during the free skate for him to vault up to the top.

The third America, Todd Eldredge, stumbled out of his quad combo and then had a fall on his generally trusty triple axel and was ninth after the short program in his third Olympics.

Stojko in 7th?

The most undermarked program of the bunch went to Canada’s Elvis Stojko, who had one mistake, a step out of the first part of his quad toe-triple toe combination. He was judged seventh best, behind Russia’s Alexander Abt, who had an underrotated triple lutz and a poor landing on his triple axel. You also would not be able to make the case that Abt had a stronger program than Stojko did, so it was tough to see how the judges made that decision.

Do note, though, that one of the interesting facts that came out of the men's short program was the fact that there were three Russian men in the top five. With names like Stojko and Eldredge in the mix, few would have expected Abt to be in fifth after the short program.

Had the competition been judged with IJS, I’d imagine Stojko might have been scored over both Abt and Plushenko. Back in the 6.0 system, a fall on a quad toe was a fall on a quad toe, underrotated or not. Plushenko’s error would have cost him a lot more technically in the IJS, so it probably would have been a lot closer.

MEN (after the short program)
1. Alexei Yagudin RUS VIDEO
2. Takeshi Honda JPN VIDEO
3. Timothy Goebel USA VIDEO
4. Evgeni Plushenko RUS VIDEO (video from Plushy's "private archive" :hi_hi_hi: )
5. Alexander Abt RUS VIDEO
6. Chengjiang Li CHN
7. Elvis Stojko CAN
8. Michael Weiss USA
9. Todd Eldredge USA
10. Anthony Liu AUS
11. Frederic Dambier FRA
12. Ivan Dinev BUL
13. Kevin Van Der Perren BEL
14. Yunfei Li CHN
15. Sergei Davydov BLR
16. Stephane Lambiel SUI
17. Brian Joubert FRA
....

PLAY-BY-PLAY

#29 Elvis Stojko CAN – quad toe (step out)-triple toe, triple axel, steps into triple lutz (entrance a bit tentative) – that program should have been above Abt’s, Stokjo’s step out of the quad should have been less of a deduction than Abt’s underrotated lutz and scratchy axel landing

#25 Todd Eldredge USA – quad toe (foot down)-double toe (underrotated), triple axel (fall, completely outside the circle), steps into triple lutz – that quad combo at the beginning was really close, the axel was really too bad

#24 Alexander Abt RUS – not much choreography for about 15 seconds into quad toe-triple toe, triple axel (forward lean on the landing and scratchy), steps into triple lutz (underrotated) – there isn’t much refinement in his skating, and he had that underrotated lutz

#20 Timothy Goebel USA – quad salchow-triple toe (so smooth), triple axel, steps into triple flip (easy) – definitely not the quality of skating of Yagudin, Honda, and Plushenko, but the technical elements were pretty darn good

#19 Min Zhang CHN - speed into triple axel (nice), quad toe (messy fall), steps into double lutz –doesn’t help with those unwatchable spins

#18 Evgeni Plushenko RUS – quad toe (fall, not just a fall but also underrotated), steps into triple lutz (nice and easy), the Biellmann! – his hips won’t allow him to do that these days – there were so many music cuts in that program (seems to be a trend with Michael Jackson medleys in figure skating), that quad was so loose and sloppy, you rarely see his quad look like that

#15 Takeshi Honda JPN – quad toe-triple toe, triple axel (like it fell out of the sky), steps into triple lutz – best short program of his career, by far

#14 Alexei Yagudin RUS – quad toe-triple toe (slow on the landing but complete), triple axel (nice), arguably the guy who started the revolution of the step sequences (remember all those copycat toepick-heavy sequences in the next few years?), steps into triple lutz, I never particularly liked that half-baked layback that he always does in his combo spins – that’s one of the great men’s short programs in history

#1 Michael Weiss USA – quad toe-double toe (two-foot on the quad), triple axel (slipped off the takeoff edge a bit, possibly underrotated), steps into triple lutz (solid)

NEXT: Men’s free skate
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Re: Другие интересные новости || Other interesting news

Postby cekoni » 23 Feb 2012, 05:11

http://www.examiner.com/figure-skating- ... ittle-time

2002 Olympics look back: So many quads, so little time

If you can believe it, the top three men at Salt Lake City landed seven clean quads between them in the free skate. To put it in perspective, this feat, to the best of my knowledge, has never been repeated, and it’s something that I guarantee will not happen at this year’s Worlds. In the end, Alexei Yagudin kept the top position to win gold, while rival Evgeni Plushenko recovered from a fall in the short to move up to second.

Fourth after the short, it would have taken a whole lot to beat Yagudin, but Plushenko did pretty much everything in his power to give himself the chance. And though he had two mistakes, it would have been tough even had he skated perfectly because of his fourth-place placement. Yagudin had such momentum coming in from the short program, and with the added advantage of skating last, there was no derailing that train.

Plushenko, to his credit, left nothing in the bag – quad toe-triple toe-triple loop combo to begin (he stepped out of the loop), another quad toe, and then a very unique and super difficult triple axel-half loop-triple flip combination – to this day, he’s the only person I’ve ever seen even attempt that combo.

Yagudin’s gold was well-deserved, though his marks were a tad high, especially on the technical merit side. But his two quads and six clean triples were stronger than Plushenko’s two quads and five clean triples. The 6.0s in presentation were really not about the program that was skated that night - it wasn't skated all out, and I didn't find those 6.0s to be at all justified. But either way, the placements were correct (thankfully).

Goebel’s skate of a lifetime
As a point of reference, Goebel’s program as skated in Salt Lake City is worth more in jumps-only base value than the free skates of anyone has achieved this season. (Note that Kevin Reynolds has a higher planned base value this season, but he has never received full credit for all of his jumps.)
It’s an incredible feat, and it would be the free skate of his career – three quads, including a quad sale in the second half of his program (unheard of even today), two triple axels (turned out of the second), and four other triples. Keep in mind that this is a program not designed to cater to the point-getting strategies appropriate to the IJS. It remains today one of the most difficult programs ever – how there weren’t 6.0s for technical merit is just beyond me. But the bronze was still well-deserved.

Eldredge-Stojko-Weiss
The three combined were not nearly as decorated, but there was something about the Todd Eldredge-Elvis Stojko-Michael Weiss combination that was reminiscent of Boitano-Browning-Petrenko in 1994. All of them had issues with the short program, and all of them would come back in the free skate with strong programs.
In a lot of ways, Eldredge’s eight-triple program was undermarked, even with the fall on the quad toe. That program should have beaten both Takeshi Honda's and Alexander Abt's free skates without a doubt. And though he would end up sixth both in the free skate and overall, he had to have been satisfied that he finished his career with a strong free skate that ranked amongst one of his best ever.
Stojko, like Sale/Pelletier before him and Michelle Kwan later in the week, chose the nostalgic route and returned to the free skate he used to win the silver in Lillehammer. Though his style of skating isn’t always what I find most interesting, I still contend that he should have won the gold in Lillehammer over Alexei Urmanov. But a lot of the magic that made the Dragon/Bruce Lee free skate so great eight years before was a bit lost in 2002. He was really dragging toward the end and ended up dropping to eighth.
Weiss opened with a great quad toe-triple toe-double loop combo, and for me, it was probably the greatest technical feat he had been able to put together in competition. There were some scratchy points during the free skate, but it also must have been satisfying for him to hit that quad in Olympic competition. After winning another U.S. title a year later, he tried for his third Olympic berth in 2006 but was just short of it, finishing fourth at Nationals.

Names still in competition

It’s amazing to think that this was ten years ago, and three of the skaters who were there have still been skating this season. Plushenko, of course, made his second comeback this season at 29 (yup, he was favored for gold and won the silver when he was 19).


Belgium’s Kevin Van Der Perren, 12th in Salt Lake City and also 29 now, has said that this season would be his last. A wrist injury forced him out of Europeans before his free skate, and that was supposed to have been his final competition. But now he hopes to wrap his career up at Worlds on a good note. Now 27, Brian Joubert was 14th and went on to win a World title. And like Plushenko and Van Der Perren, he’s still going strong, quads and all.

MEN (final standings)
1. Alexei Yagudin RUS VIDEO
2. Evgeni Plushenko RUS VIDEO
3. Timothy Goebel USA VIDEO
4. Takeshi Honda JPN VIDEO
5. Alexander Abt RUS VIDEO
6. Todd Eldredge USA VIDEO
7. Michael Weiss USA VIDEO
8. Elvis Stojko CAN VIDEO
9. Chengjiang Li CHN VIDEO
10. Anthony Liu AUS VIDEO
11. Frederic Dambier FRA VIDEO
12. Kevin Van Der Perren BEL
13. Ivan Dinev BUL VIDEO
14. Brian Joubert FRA
15. Stephane Lambiel SUI VIDEO
...

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Alexei Yagudin RUS – quad toe-triple toe-double loop (nice), quad toe, triple axel (solid), triple salchow, triple lutz, triple loop, triple flip (hangs on) – the two opening quads and the triple axel were beautiful, but I did find it interesting that he chose to play it conservatively after those three passes – and he was this close to losing it with that triple flip

Alexander Abt RUS – quad toe (fall), triple axel-triple toe, triple lutz (turn out), triple axel, triple salchow, triple flip, triple loop, triple toe – decent program, but this should not have finished higher than Eldredge

Timothy Goebel USA – triple lutz, quad salchow-triple toe, tentative spread eagle into triple axel-double toe, quad toe, really cool single loop (was that supposed to have been a walley?)-reverse one-foot salchow into a camel spin, triple axel (turn out), quad salchow (3:15 into the program!), triple flip, hydroblade into triple loop – he still didn’t move like the best of them, but that is, hands-down, still technically one of the most difficult programs ever done

Evgeni Plushenko RUS – quad toe-triple toe-triple loop (step out of loop), quad toe, triple axel-half loop-triple flip, triple axel, triple lutz, double axel, double salchow – that was some crazy set of jumping passes to start the program, really great of Plushenko to come back strong after the disappointment in the short

Takeshi Honda JPN – steps into triple flip (huge), quad toe (step out), triple salchow, triple axel-double toe, triple axel (smooth), triple loop, triple lutz, walley into a spread eagle – this was a really superbly-choreographed program, and it was actually a bit of a precursor to the structure of programs in the iJS – not in terms of overdesigned step sequences and spins with weird positions, but lots of in-between transitions, there was just no way that six triples and a fallout of the quad toe were going to be able to compete with Goebel’s three quads

Chengjiang Li CHN – quad toe-triple toe (hangs on), double salchow, single axel, double lutz, triple loop (possibly underrotated), triple axel (nice), triple salchow – what a powerhouse this guy was, but that was also some nonexistent choreography

Anthony Liu AUS – quad toe (hand down), triple axel (fall), triple lutz-triple toe (hangs on), double toe, triple loop (possibly underrotated), triple salchow, triple flip (hangs on)

Ivan Dinev BUL – triple toe, triple axel (hangs on), single lutz, triple axel-triple toe, triple flip (hand down), triple loop (hand down, possibly underrotated), singl elutz, two half-loops into triple salchow

Frederic Dambier FRA – triple axel, quad salchow (hand down, foot down), triple axel-double toe, triple flip (fall out, hand down), triple salchow, double lutz, inside spread eagle into triple loop (hangs on), spread eagle into triple toe (hangs on)

Michael Weiss USA – quad toe-triple toe-double loop (one of the few times in his career that he hit a fully-rotated clean quad in competition), triple axel (hangs on), double loop, triple axel-triple toe sequence, triple flip (fall out), triple salchow, triple lutz (two-foot)

Elvis Stojko CAN – it really is the Olympics for nostalgic revivals (Sale/Pelletier w/Love Story, Stojko w/Dragon, and then Kwan w/Rach) – quad toe-double toe, quad toe-double toe-double loop (turn out), triple lutz, triple axel (fall out)-double toe, triple flip, triple loop (hand down), triple salchow – this was one of my favorite programs in Lillehammer, but it lost its luster here, unfortunately

Todd Eldredge USA – quad toe (fall), triple axel-triple toe, triple lutz, triple loop-triple toe, triple flip, triple axel, triple salchow - quad toe aside, it was a great way for him to cap off his competitive career – he would finish sixth both in the free skate and overall, but he really should have been fourth in the free skate (the perils of skating early – it’s less of an issue these days with IJS, but still a part of the skating judging)
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Выпуск от 26 февраля в 22.00
"Мульты" отправились на каток в Парке Горького. Плющенко уговорил Лолиту и Собчак покататься. На катке они встречают активно отдыхающих старых друзей - Аршавина, Валуева, Зверева, Губерниева, Канделаки и т.д. Дибров и Жириновский открывают в парке свой мини-бизнес. Дибров торгует глинтвейном, а Жириновский снежками, как простыми, так и с "секретом"…
..."Российский фигурист Евгений Плющенко добился уникального достижения. Он выступил на четвертых Олимпийских играх - и выиграл четвертую медаль,став двукратным олимпийским чемпионом! "...

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Ирина wrote:...
http://www.1tv.ru/sprojects_edition/si5775/fi13712

Выпуск от 26 февраля в 22.00

"Мульты" отправились на каток в Парке Горького. Плющенко уговорил Лолиту и Собчак покататься. На катке они встречают активно отдыхающих старых друзей - Аршавина, Валуева, Зверева, Губерниева, Канделаки и т.д. Дибров и Жириновский открывают в парке свой мини-бизнес. Дибров торгует глинтвейном, а Жириновский снежками, как простыми, так и с "секретом"…

:ni_zia: You can watch this animated film over Live Stream: http://stream.1tv.ru/dvr/ch1.shtml (for 20 minutes!) :mi_ga_et:
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Postby Ирина » 26 Feb 2012, 23:09

Мульт личности 26.02. с мультом Е.Плющенко

Женя в начале и с Тарасовой с 7.10 :hi_hi_hi:
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..."Российский фигурист Евгений Плющенко добился уникального достижения. Он выступил на четвертых Олимпийских играх - и выиграл четвертую медаль,став двукратным олимпийским чемпионом! "...

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