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Re: Мужчины - соперники Жени || Men

Postby Вера » 17 Oct 2009, 21:41

Ирина, спасибо огромное за последнюю разминку! :plush40:
Жубер впечатляет, хоть и с заваленными прыжками. Программа хорошая и очень ему идет. Он вроде пытался еще и третий четверной сделать. И тоже неудачно.
masha wrote:Сделала вывод: можно выигрывать и не делая четверных, а если их делать , то нужно делать очень чисто, иначе смысла нет.
Oda откатал очень чисто ( классная программа ), но без четверных, и выиграл.

Да, так и есть. Еще и Риппон без четверных на пьедестале.
Умилило, как Морозов сказал своему японскому ученику :"Всё, пошли!" по-русски. :-) Везде наши люди :hi_hi_hi:
Сколько же баннеров висит в Берси! :sh_ок: Всё увешано. И русских болельщиков видимо много. :co_ol:
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Re: Мужчины - соперники Жени || Men

Postby cekoni » 18 Oct 2009, 01:44

2009 TEB

Men - Free Skating

http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpfra09/SEG002.HTM

Pl. / Name /Nation / TSS= / TES+ / PCS+ / SS / TR / PE / CH / IN / Ded.- /StN.
1 Nobunari ODA JPN 163.33 86.43 76.90 7.80 7.25 7.80 7.80 7.80 0.00 #11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPupAQObT_Q
2 Tomas VERNER CZE 148.96 72.86 76.10 7.80 7.40 7.55 7.70 7.60 0.00 #12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMZUYpNu7iw
3 Adam RIPPON USA 144.14 75.34 68.80 6.85 6.70 7.00 7.00 6.85 0.00 #10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pohgzck0lg
4 Brian JOUBERT FRA 135.24 64.24 72.00 7.60 6.75 7.35 7.10 7.20 1.00 #7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LulWSOkrSKk
5 Yannick PONSERO FRA 133.24 64.54 68.70 7.00 6.60 6.85 6.90 7.00 0.00 #8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=437BxAUfHRc
6 Sergei VORONOV RUS 131.65 67.65 65.00 6.65 6.30 6.55 6.65 6.35 1.00 #9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uzIoG5Yj6U
7 Alban PREAUBERT FRA 123.14 62.14 62.00 6.15 5.90 6.40 6.25 6.30 1.00 #6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AlXcl9wo-Y

Men - Final Result
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpfra09/CAT001RS.HTM
FPl. / Name / Nation / Points / SP / FS
1 Nobunari ODA JPN 242.53 2 1
2 Tomas VERNER CZE 229.96 1 2
3 Adam RIPPON USA 219.96 3 3
4 Brian JOUBERT FRA 207.39 6 4
5 Yannick PONSERO FRA 205.74 5 5
6 Sergei VORONOV RUS 204.45 4 6
7 Alban PREAUBERT FRA 189.63 7 7

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Re: Мужчины - соперники Жени || Men

Postby cekoni » 18 Oct 2009, 01:59

Thanks Irina for videos :plush39:

As said earlier Mishin - the most important is to be in good shape at the peak season, when the most important - not the beginning. :mi_ga_et:
Now we should wait and see, whether Joubert also timed his form :ne_vi_del: .... or he simply has no more legs (and nerves :-) ) which can withstand quadruples in competitions :plush21:

P.S. I just hope, that Plushy will not have (because "unbelievers Toma's" :pa_la_ch: ), each time to give its maximum :-(
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Re: Мужчины - соперники Жени || Men

Postby Ирина » 18 Oct 2009, 11:49

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masha wrote:Сделала вывод: можно выигрывать и не делая четверных, а если их делать , то нужно делать очень чисто, иначе смысла нет..


можно,наверно.Но что ж это тогда за победитель? :ne_vi_del: Ещё в 2002 по два четверных ЕП и АЯ прыгали :plush45: Считаю,что победитель,тем более чемпион ОИ,обязан делать и побеждать с четверными :du_el: :bra_vo: .И желательно,не с одним в ПП :plush35: Иначе,чем тогда оно (мужское),отличается от женского :ne_vi_del:
У Оды классная,потрясающая программа ,(браво,Морозов :plush46: ),но всё равно чисто женское катание.Я же,за мужское.

Вера wrote:Умилило, как Морозов сказал своему японскому ученику :"Всё, пошли!" по-русски. :-) Везде наши люди :hi_hi_hi:
Сколько же баннеров висит в Берси! :sh_ок: Всё увешано. И русских болельщиков видимо много. :co_ol:


Морозов-это вообще отдельное шоу ;;-)))
Да ,баннеров очень много,особенно с Жубером.Ну наверно,чем лучше его поддерживают трибуны,тем больше он делает ошибок :du_ma_et: :)-(:
..."Российский фигурист Евгений Плющенко добился уникального достижения. Он выступил на четвертых Олимпийских играх - и выиграл четвертую медаль,став двукратным олимпийским чемпионом! "...
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Re: Мужчины - соперники Жени || Men

Postby masha » 18 Oct 2009, 13:17

Вера wrote:Ирина, спасибо огромное за последнюю разминку! :plush40:
Жубер впечатляет, хоть и с заваленными прыжками. Программа хорошая и очень ему идет. Он вроде пытался еще и третий четверной сделать. И тоже неудачно.

Коментаторы сказали, что 3ий прыжок был заявлен как тройной, но по словам самого фигуриста, потенциально, чтоб выиграть олимпиаду, это место для 4ого.
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Re: Мужчины - соперники Жени || Men

Postby masha » 18 Oct 2009, 13:24

Ирина wrote:.


masha wrote:Сделала вывод: можно выигрывать и не делая четверных, а если их делать , то нужно делать очень чисто, иначе смысла нет..


можно,наверно.Но что ж это тогда за победитель? :ne_vi_del: Ещё в 2002 по два четверных ЕП и АЯ прыгали :plush45: Считаю,что победитель,тем более чемпион ОИ,обязан делать и побеждать с четверными :du_el: :bra_vo: .И желательно,не с одним в ПП :plush35: Иначе,чем тогда оно (мужское),отличается от женского :ne_vi_del:
У Оды классная,потрясающая программа ,(браво,Морозов :plush46: ),но всё равно чисто женское катание.Я же,за мужское.

А кто же против!!??
Совершенно с тобой согласна. Как то адреналин теряется. Смотришь, а дыхание не замирает перед прыжком.
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Re: Мужчины - соперники Жени || Men

Postby Ирина » 18 Oct 2009, 15:26

masha wrote:
Вера wrote:Он вроде пытался еще и третий четверной сделать. И тоже неудачно.

Коментаторы сказали, что 3ий прыжок был заявлен как тройной, но по словам самого фигуриста, потенциально, чтоб выиграть олимпиаду, это место для 4ого.

и мне показалось,что заходил на третий четверной. Какой смысл делать тройной тулуп без каскада :du_ma_et:

masha wrote: Как то адреналин теряется. Смотришь, а дыхание не замирает перед прыжком.

ага,абсолютно верно :mi_ga_et:
..."Российский фигурист Евгений Плющенко добился уникального достижения. Он выступил на четвертых Олимпийских играх - и выиграл четвертую медаль,став двукратным олимпийским чемпионом! "...
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Re: Мужчины - соперники Жени || Men

Postby masha » 18 Oct 2009, 17:58

Смотрю сейчас Гала.
Выступал Joubert. Моё впечатление подтвердилось, насчёт его 3-5 лишних кг.
И его костюм в ПП только это подчёркивает.
Ничего против него не имею, но всё таки.
Ну, это моё личное мнение.
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Re: Мужчины - соперники Жени || Men

Postby Scarlett » 24 Oct 2009, 16:12

Джонни Вейр: может, я все же русский?

Сегодня, 23 октября, в Москве завершился первый день второго этапа Гран-при по фигурному катанию – «Кубок Ростелекома». По итогам короткой программы в мужском одиночном катании третье место занял любимец российской публики, бронзовый призер чемпионата мира-2008 американец Джонни Вейр, набравший 72,57 балла. Свой прокат Джонни Вейр прокомментировал специальному корреспонденту Агентства спортивной информации «Весь спорт».

«Сегодня сидел в одной раздевалке с молодыми спортсменами, вспомнил, сколько мне лет и сказал своему тренеру Галине Змиевской: «Я такой старый! Это Ужас!» - притворно посетовал Джонни Вейр. - Но Галина Яковлевна строго погрозила мне пальцем: «Ничего-ничего, зайчик! Давай, покажи им, как надо кататься!». Россия для меня как вторая родина, и уж точно – родная страна. Поэтому для меня всегда двойная ответственность выступать здесь. Я чувствую большое давление на своих плечах. Сегодня насчитал на арене десять посвящённых мне плакатов. Это невероятно и прекрасно! И мне сейчас сказали, что из иностранных фигуристов я единственный, кого жаждала русская пресса в микст-зоне. Может быть, я всё же русский? Ну, душа у меня уж точно русская plush48 (смеется). Своим катанием сегодня я разочарован, особенно прыжковой частью. Но я не отчаиваюсь и в целом считаю, что показал неплохой уровень для первого старта в сезоне. Завтра в произвольной программе надеюсь не повторить ошибок».
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Re: Мужчины - соперники Жени || Men

Postby cekoni » 30 Oct 2009, 03:08

http://loopaxles.blogspot.com/2009/10/pic-of-week_27.html
Tuesday, October 27, 2009

Pic of the Week

It's go time.

The SAMSUNG Anycall Cup of China will be the season debut for the reigning World Champion, Evan Lysacek.

Besides having the pressure of being the one everyone is after, he also has to prove that he can keep pace with the top men we've already seen this season. Oda was fantastic in Paris (and competes again in China) and Plushenko threw down in Moscow...time to ante up! ::yaz-yk:

"How am I dealing with the pressure? I guess I'm not placing it on myself" Lysacek recently told USA Today. But even if he's not putting pressure on himself, he must feel the pressure his competitors are putting on him.

This weekend Evan debuts his programs to two well known skating warhorses. His short is set to Stravinsky's Firebird and his free to Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherazade. Frank Carroll told USA Today "He's been working a lot on the emotion and bringing out his feelings — rather than just doing a program that's a bunch of unconnected elements — and really interpreting the music."

Well Mr. World Champ...let's see what you got!

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http://www.universalsports.com/ViewArticle...TCLID=204822942
Thu Oct 29, 2009 By Nancy Armour / Associated Press

Lysacek's crown not heavy to wear

Evan Lysacek, skating before his hometown crowd in Los Angeles last spring, became the first American male to win a world championship since 1996.

TORONTO (AP) -- The rink is filled with skaters of all ages and abilities, so packed coaches occasionally must play traffic cop just to clear enough space for a run-through.

As Evan Lysacek begins his free skate, however, the other skaters stop and drift back to the boards. It’s a brand-new program with plenty of work still to be done, yet the entire rink is silent, mesmerized by his power and grace.

“People said to me that when they watched him in practice, they thought he was different. I was unaware of it because I watch him every day,” longtime coach Frank Carroll said. “I said, ‘How is he different?’ They said he skates like a world champion now. He looks like he has that air and that confidence of a world champion.”

Winning the world title the year before the Vancouver Olympics would seem to bring a crushing burden. Expectations, already high, climb a little further. Obligations, from the media to the federation to sponsors, pile up. Fellow skaters, if they need motivation, focus on you.

If anything, though, the title has freed Lysacek.

There’s something empowering about knowing you really can hold your own -- and then some -- against anyone in the world. Something inspiring, too.

“It could have made me feel like, ‘OK, that’s it, who cares what happens from now on,”’ Lysacek said. “It had the opposite effect, and it sort of made me feel like anything is possible.

“I’m not going to expect anything, but I’m certainly not going to doubt that it could happen. I’m going to just go into the season and feel like I have an open book, and I’m going to write it as each day goes on.”

Lysacek officially kicks off his Olympic season Friday at the Cup of China. His toughest competition there should come from Japan’s Nobunari Oda, winner of the season’s first Grand Prix event, Trophee Eric Bompard.

But, judging by last week’s Rostelecom Cup, Lysacek’s biggest competition will be Evgeni Plushenko. In his first international competition since coming out of retirement, the Olympic champion routed a field that included three-time U.S. champ Johnny Weir and Takahiko Kozuka, silver medalist at the Grand Prix final.

No man has repeated as Olympic champion since Dick Button in 1952.
Then again, no American man has won the Olympics since Brian Boitano in 1988, and Scott Hamilton (1984) is the last reigning world champion to claim the gold.

“I certainly don’t want him to go to the Olympic Games with any expectations of winning whatsoever,” said Carroll, who coached Olympic silver medalists Linda Fratianne and Michelle Kwan and bronze medalist Tim Goebel. “Going into the competition with the thought, ‘I’m the world champion,’ sure, people are going to know who he is. But they’re not necessarily going to think his skating is the best. He’s got to prove it.

“The person that lets it all hang out, that lets it go, that gives it every drop of their blood there at that moment and puts their whole being into that performance or that competition, frequently, they’re the ones who achieve.”

Carroll doesn’t need to sell his pupil on that concept. All Lysacek has to do is look back at the world championships.

A true California kid (by way of the Chicago suburbs), Lysacek is Zenlike and sunny, and his personality is often the best part of his programs. But at this year’s national championships, he was so focused on his technique and changes he and Carroll were trying to make that his programs were like rough sketches, no color or life to them.

Not only did he not win a third straight title, he finished third. Add in his failure to medal at the 2007 world championships and the freak injury that kept him home in 2008, and Lysacek hit what he calls the “low point” of his career.

“I think every athlete goes through a little bit of doubt in their career, and I definitely went through it,” he said. “It was like, ‘I love skating and I’ve tried my entire life and trained day in and day out and given it everything, but maybe this just isn’t going to happen for me.’

“That’s thinking the destination, not the journey.”

Using every trick he had, Carroll pulled Lysacek together for Four Continents, just two weeks later. Lysacek won the silver medal and then, a few weeks later, came here to work with his longtime choreographer, Lori Nichol.

Nichol has always focused on a skater’s relationship with the ice, believing everything builds from that. You can fix problems with technique or artistry. But if a skater doesn’t feel the ice, you may as well as pack it in and go home.

As the days passed, Lysacek realized he was having fun again.

“I’ve had a great journey,” he said. “Once I came to that realization, I let go of trying to control everything and train, train, train, train, train and control and force it when I competed. I just wanted to have fun, and that seemed to be the right formula for me.”

He returned for the world championships in Los Angeles eager to skate for his family and friends and Carroll, not for a spot on the podium.

Skating in a building he considers his second home -- a big Lakers and Kings fan, he’s a frequent visitor to the Staples Center -- Lysacek was electrifying. The audience was on its feet well before his music ended, and Lysacek was pumping his arms in celebration while still doing his final combination spin.

For the first time since 1996, an American man was the world champion.

“He will be a world champion the rest of his life,” Carroll said. “That credential alone is something remarkable and unique. Most people never will even be close to being the best in the world in anything.”

Making it even more remarkable was that Lysacek won despite a stress fracture in his left foot.

The new title has opened all kinds of doors for him. He presented the game ball before a Lakers playoff game, and did shows in Asia and across the United States. Go into a grocery store this winter, and you’ll see him on soda cans as one of Coca-Cola’s Olympic “Six-Pack.” He’s got more clothes than he knows what to do with, thanks to Ralph Lauren.

“Just boxes, navy blue boxes in every room stacked up,” he said, shaking his head in amazement.

But it hasn’t changed him -- or his attitude. Despite a brand-new Range Rover, he tried to teach training partner Mirai Nagasu how to drive this summer. When he came here to work with Nichol on his new programs, he spent his free time playing tennis with her young sons and being a one-man noise machine at their baseball games.

And as his season begins, the Vancouver Olympics looming larger every day, he’s at peace with himself and the weight that world title can carry.

“All I can do is stay on the same path that I’m on,” he said. “Which is feel lucky every day to be on the ice, and thankful I have the opportunity to do something I love on a daily basis.”
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