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Re: Мужчины || Men

Postby cekoni » 27 Oct 2011, 21:07

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Мроз первым среди мужчин исполнил четверной лутц

Международный союз конькобежцев (ISU) сообщил, что американец Брендон Мроз на турнире Colorado Springs Invitational 16 сентября этого года исполнил четверной лутц.

Это первый четверной лутц в истории мужского фигурного катания на официальных соревнованиях. Турнир Colorado Springs Invitational проводился Федерацией США, сообщает официальный сайт ISU.
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Re: Мужчины || Men

Postby cekoni » 27 Oct 2011, 21:08

Sochi remains ultimate goal for Takahashi:
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article. ... y=ice_news

Weir never "dares to be different;" he just is:
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article. ... y=ice_news
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Re: Мужчины || Men

Postby cekoni » 29 Oct 2011, 05:38

"Money makes the world go around...the world go around ..." :)-(: But, at least, they not banned him, like they (ISU and RSF) punished Plushy!!! :plush43:
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http://www.requiredelements.com/2011/10 ... ek-dispute

Update on Lysacek Dispute:

Here is an interesting article by Phil Hersh that takes a look at the dispute Evan Lysacek has with the US Figure Skating Association. It discusses Lysacek's recent switch from International Management Group (IMG) to Creative Artists Agency (CAA).

Although the article does not include newer interviews with Lysacek or any comment from CAA, Hersh speculates that the agency isn't as familiar with the skating world as IMG was, and that may have played a part in the inability to reach an appearance agreement with USFSA for the Grand Prix events.

But let's get back to the core issue, which Hamilton alluded to when he said, "the business of skating has changed."

One question is how well CAA understands that. The agency has had minimal relationships with figure skating and figure skaters -- especially compared to IMG, which has been intimately involved with the sport (sometimes too intimately) for years.

Although Bezic's remark about financial gain was ridiculous (why shouldn't a skater with Lysacek's career record profit from it?), the business has changed so much that it would be hard for the U.S. federation to pay Lysacek anything near what it did Michelle Kwan, Tara Lipinski, Sarah Hughes, Kimmie Meissner, Sasha Cohen, Timothy Goebel and Michael Weiss from 1997 through 2005.


That major way the business has changed is in television revenue.

In 2008, the USFS independent auditor's report said the net television revenue for the 07-08 fiscal year (the transition year to the NBC deal) was $231,000. The numbers for 2009 and 2010, listed as "broadcasting and licensing," were $1.8 million and $2.4 million, respectively, with 90 percent of that coming from broadcasting.

Those numbers show encouraging growth but also make it abundantly clear that the federation doesn't have the funds it once did for skaters like Lysacek, no matter how much he deserves such largesse. The federation says it now gives no skater or couple more than $50,000 a year, and that is for training expenses based on past performance.

Had he signed the standard current athlete agreement, Lysacek would have received $40,000 to fund his training and other expenses. That is the maximum USFS gives to a singles skater in its "A" tier, for which just the two reigning national champions qualified this season. Three ice dance couples qualified for team compensation up to $50,000.

Maybe Lysacek is asking for so little extra, relatively, that USFS seems silly not to give it to him. (If that's the case, CAA should be making it for him.) But if the federation gave Lysacek more, it would have to do the same at least for Davis and White, who were unbeaten last season. And maybe reigning Grand Prix Final and U.S. champion Alissa Czisny, fifth at 2011 worlds, also would want more.

Hersh doesn't really take a side, writing that Lysacek and USFSA both need each other.

One part that stuck out in my mind is how Lysacek has been left to deal with the fallout on his own - with no visible support from his agency. I really wish this had worked out another way - it would have been great to see Lysacek last week at Skate America.
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Re: Мужчины || Men

Postby cekoni » 29 Oct 2011, 19:27

cekoni wrote:
clairdelalune wrote:ISU homologates the first quadruple Lutz jump :bra_vo:

"The ISU recognizes and homologates the first quadruple Lutz performed in any sanctioned competition. Brandon Mroz (USA) executed the jump on September 16, 2011 during his Free Skating program at the Colorado Springs Invitational, a U.S. Figure Skating sanctioned event."

http://isu.sportcentric.net/db/isu_fron ... php?id=929
To view the video of Brandon Mroz’s quadruple Lutz click here ...

The ISU changed their the original statement :ps_ih: ;;-)))

The first reportedly recognized quadruple Lutz jump
26 October 2011

The ISU was informed and based on footage placed on Youtube was able to confirm that Brandon Mroz’s (USA) performed a quadruple Lutz on September 16, 2011 during the Colorado Springs Invitational, a U.S. Figure Skating sanctioned Event. This is reportedly the first quadruble Lutz performed in any sanctioned competition.


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Sancitoned competition by the ISU? :)-(:
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Re: Мужчины || Men

Postby whitebamboo » 29 Oct 2011, 20:01

cekoni wrote:"Money makes the world go around...the world go around ..." :)-(: But, at least, they not banned him, like they (ISU and RSF) punished Plushy!!! :plush43:
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Update on Lysacek Dispute:

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Thanks, Cekoni! This is really an interesting article. I was kind of surprised that Evan Lysacek left IMG for CAA, an agency that was apparently inexperienced in figure skating. (Although I have to say that Phil Hersh, the author of the article, was implying that much of this is CAA's fault without any solid evidence of its role in this.)

Although have to say I personally don't like Hersh very much, I find some of the data he quotes kind of interesting. One thing I didn't know was how much the top American skaters from the 90's and early 2000's made from the USFSA.

Although Bezic's remark about financial gain was ridiculous (why shouldn't a skater with Lysacek's career record profit from it?), the business has changed so much that it would be hard for the U.S. federation to pay Lysacek anything near what it did Michelle Kwan, Tara Lipinski, Sarah Hughes, Kimmie Meissner, Sasha Cohen, Timothy Goebel and Michael Weiss from 1997 through 2005.

Each of the skaters in the previous paragraph (other than Lysacek) made in excess of $100,000 from appearance fees (the totals also include prize money funneled through USFS) during one of those years, as the federation reported in its tax filings under the category of the top five independent contractors making $100,000 or more in a year.

Kwan, the most decorated U.S. figure skater in history, earned $6.3 million from 1997 through 2005 (best year: $899,000 on the 1998 tax filing).

Cohen made from $315,000 to $473,000 from 2002 through 2005; Weiss pulled in $505,000 in 2003, Hughes $518,000 in 2002, Goebel $353,000 in 2002, Lipinski $433,000 in 1997.

(FYI: Tax filings are for a fiscal year, so Lipinski's 1997 earnings, for instance, were from July 1, 1997 through June 30, 1998 -- the months following her U.S. and world titles and including her 1998 Olympic title).


The way Hersh wrote it was kind of messy and ambiguous, but as I understand it, all this is just from USFSA's own tax records, so it would only include the amount each of these skaters made through USFSA, and not through other sources like shows or ads? Either way, it's certainly kind of hard to imagine skaters today making that kind of their money from their Fed...
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Re: Мужчины || Men

Postby cekoni » 30 Oct 2011, 18:58

cekoni wrote:Vladislav Sezganov - Quad Lutz + Triple Toeloop - Владислав Сезганов
May 2011, St.-Petersburg - he trains with Evgeny Rukavitsyn (Menshov and Makarova group).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R49bSX1P0Oc


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Евгений Рукавицын: «Сезганов второй сезон тренирует четверной лутц в каскаде с тройным тулупом»

Тренер Евгений Рукавицын, работающий с фигуристом Владиславом Сезгановым, сообщил, что 23-летний спортсмен намерен побить достижение американца Брендона Мроза, прыгнувшего четверной лутц.

«Сезганов второй сезон тренирует четверной лутц в каскаде с тройным тулупом, и ему очень хочется выполнить этот элемент на официальном старте. Пока нам удалось побить рекорды просмотров видеозаписей с тренировок Сезганова в интернете, а также получить очень лестные и обнадеживающие отзывы специалистов, видевших этот элемент ультра-си в его исполнении на разминках и тренировках. Надеюсь, сможем показать каскад на стартах этого сезона.

Я, безусловно, очень рад тому, что такой сложнейший элемент, как четверной лутц, покорился Мрозу в соревновании. Четверной лутц вообще прыгают пока только единицы, да и то на тренировках», – приводит слова Рукавицына РИА Новости.
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Re: Мужчины || Men

Postby cekoni » 30 Oct 2011, 20:24

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Патрик Чан: «Я все еще развиваюсь как фигурист»

Канадский фигурист Патрик Чан рассказал о том, что планирует улучшить в новом сезоне, и признался, что ему есть куда расти.

«Я все еще развиваюсь как фигурист. Я выиграл чемпионат мира, но мне есть над чем работать.

В прошлом сезоне старался прибавить в технике. В основном, работал над приземлением после четверного прыжка, над тем, как выполнить тройной аксель, и остаться стоять на ногах. В этом году буду улучшать движения, а также буду заниматься над артистизмом. Покажу, что действительно хочу кататься, а не просто исполнять прыжки и получать очки. Это больше касается того, чтобы получать удовольствие и дарить болельщикам нечто особенное», – приводит слова Чана AP.
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Re: Мужчины || Men

Postby dramagirl » 31 Oct 2011, 18:44

Наследник русской школы мужского одиночного катания plush48
23.10.2011 15:02
http://www.sporturala.ru/index.php/figu ... ussiascool

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Re: Мужчины || Men

Postby cekoni » 31 Oct 2011, 19:07

dramagirl wrote:Наследник русской школы мужского одиночного катания plush48
23.10.2011 15:02
http://www.sporturala.ru/index.php/figu ... ussiascool

Spasibo for link dramagirl! :plush39: .... there are some mistakes (about new ISU rules) in the text, but never mind :mi_ga_et:


I never saw this picture :co_ol: - this is little Жан Буш with Evgeni on 2000 Finlandia Trophy? :du_ma_et: :plush45:

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Re: Мужчины || Men

Postby dramagirl » 01 Nov 2011, 16:31

cekoni! Thank you! :son-ce:

Tell me, please, about the «some mistakes» by the rules new ISU. Explain to me - it's interesting and important.
Yes, this Zhan Bush - what age Zhan not know and where done photo - too not know.

And since when in men's figure skating judges have to give the first place skater with a higher estimate for the components? For example, in Canada, Javier Fernandez, lost to Chan, but received a score above technique.
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