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Re: Japan Open 2010 - Tokyo, 02.10.2010

Postby clairdelalune » 04 Oct 2010, 15:14

dimi wrote:3. Then he was called the edge on his flip (e), so automatically he has to get - Goe (most judges just didn't notice the wrong edge but last judge is in love with Plushy probably :hi_hi_hi: ). He didnt do 3flip all season except Rostelecom and for a good reason, a called flip is same marks like doing a 2axel

11. First one FCSp1 I really dont know why he got level 1, I m reading rules and cant understand why. :ny_tik:


The last judge was blind or in love because he gave the lowest marks not only to Plushy but to all skaters. :hi_hi_hi:
I can´t understand what happened with the FCSp either, if you find out , please tell us. But I think his spins were better in shows than in competition! :mi_ga_et:
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Re: Japan Open 2010 - Tokyo, 02.10.2010

Postby cekoni » 04 Oct 2010, 15:36

dimi wrote:
cekoni wrote:I was expected that judges will be better evaluate his biellmann's spirals, spins and this combination :plush34:... ISU definitely forcing skaters to be mediocrity, and go to "safe", boring and developed a formulas :plush43:


relax I really think the judges were very good with him, he got +Goe in almost all elements :plush39:
Lets see:
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11. First one FCSp1 I really dont know why he got level 1, I m reading rules and cant understand why. :ny_tik:

13. all i can think of is that the second one CCoSP got level 1 because first of all by Isu rules this is not bielman but variation of camel spin, and if any of position doesn't revolute two times at least spin gets level 1 automatically. ....

Thanks Dimi - you always calm down my emotions with math :co_ol:
.... and thanks for "translation" of scores :plush40: i get lost in these abbreviations, rules ... :kli_ny: :ps_ih:


P.S. for others... FCSp=Flying Camel Spin .... CCoSP=Change Foot Combination Spin
... here you have abbreviation for all elements :mi_ga_et:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?9jlldho4mqav7oq
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Re: Japan Open 2010 - Tokyo, 02.10.2010

Postby dimi » 04 Oct 2010, 16:20

clairdelalune wrote:
dimi wrote:I can´t understand what happened with the FCSp either, if you find out , please tell us. But I think his spins were better in shows than in competition! :mi_ga_et:


i dont know but I can only suspect that he did something wrong with the revolutions ex. he did 3 variations of camel, the original camel, something like donut and the third catch foot (cekoni if you to screen caps of this) but the 3rd variation was very little, almost two revolutions. I m only saying this because there are rules that make the spin automatically level 1 no matter how good it was, so to give level 1 in his camel that was perfect means something went wrong. Maybe I m wrong of course.
But he lost too many points by these two spins and by doubling his lutz, I havent counted but if he had a 3 lutz and his normal spins Rippon wouldnt be so far ahead even with no quad Plushy ! :plush34: And it is so obvious he goes for a walk in the park when he doesn't have a quad :hi_hi_hi:

i want to say that by the standards that Plush has not trained 100% since Olympics and has traveled a lot, he did a very VERY VERY good skate, his jumps were a beauty and even the flip that I ve missed this so much as he does it out of nowhere and he gets so much height - but stupid edge rules :-( ) plus musicality, interpretation and choreography :plush31: !
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Re: Japan Open 2010 - Tokyo, 02.10.2010

Postby clairdelalune » 04 Oct 2010, 16:26

dimi wrote:
clairdelalune wrote:
dimi wrote:I can´t understand what happened with the FCSp either, if you find out , please tell us. But I think his spins were better in shows than in competition! :mi_ga_et:


i dont know but I can only suspect that he did something wrong with the revolutions ex. he did 3 variations of camel, the original camel, something like donut and the third catch foot (cekoni if you to screen caps of this) but the 3rd variation was very little, almost two revolutions. I m only saying this because there are rules that make the spin automatically level 1 no matter how good it was, so to give level 1 in his camel that was perfect means something went wrong. Maybe I m wrong of course.


Thanks! :co_ol: Yes, probably it was because of the 3rd variation, when I´ve seen the video I´ve noticed that the last was too short, but who knows... :plush34:

Yes, Dimi his flip was amazing I dunno what happened to his edge, if Mishin can´t fix it, there´s no hope... :-). And it seems he has a sort of psichological problem with that 3Lz! :plush34: The score was good considering the mistakes and that his program wasn´t adapted to the new rules. I know this may sound bad but I hope he will give up the quad combos and perform more "tricks" to please the judges and collect points. Just look at Rippon´s program!
If you and the girls talk to him at Golden Skate Awards tell him to find a good choreographer (Camerlengo, Dixon or even Tarasova) and change his style, HE CAN DO IT!!!! :co_ol: :plush39: Why to exhaust him with quads, let the young boys deal with them! ::yaz-yk:
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Re: Japan Open 2010 - Tokyo, 02.10.2010

Postby simona » 04 Oct 2010, 16:49

plush48 SUCH INTENSE BODY
AND FACIAL EXPRESSIONS..

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YEAH CEKONI! WHY DON'T THEY TREAT HIM
LIKE IF HE HIS THEIR MOST PRECIOUS BRAND
OF CAVIAR? DOES IT MEAN ANYTHING TO
THEM THAT ZHENYA IS ONE OF RUSSIA'S
GREATEST SPORTSTREASURES OF ALL TIME?
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TH@NX 4 SHARING THESE LOVELY PHOTO'S!
:plush32:

PS.
CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN 2 ME WHAT
" + GOE " IN THE SCORING - RESULTS MEANS?
FORGIVE ME MY INGNORANCE... :du_ma_et:



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Re: Japan Open 2010 - Tokyo, 02.10.2010

Postby cristinapongetti » 04 Oct 2010, 17:06

mmmm....sorry, but where I could watch the video of "je suis malade"???...if there's on the web...
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Re: Japan Open 2010 - Tokyo, 02.10.2010

Postby simona » 04 Oct 2010, 17:22

ImageCRISTINA CLICCA QUI & ENJOY! :
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Re: Japan Open 2010 - Tokyo, 02.10.2010

Postby cekoni » 04 Oct 2010, 17:26

simona wrote:....
CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN 2 ME WHAT
" + GOE " IN THE SCORING - RESULTS MEANS?

http://gofigureskating.com/compete/goe.html :mi_ga_et:

The grade of execution score (GOE) measures the quality of the element and is added to the base value.


P.S. you have all FS "guides" here: :plush45:
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Re: Japan Open 2010 - Tokyo, 02.10.2010

Postby cekoni » 04 Oct 2010, 17:42

clairdelalune wrote:...(Camerlengo, Dixon or even Tarasova) and change his style, HE CAN DO IT!!!! :co_ol: :plush39:

I do not agree - he not should to change his style, than only the number and order of the elements in the choreography :plush34:
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Re: Japan Open 2010 - Tokyo, 02.10.2010

Postby cekoni » 04 Oct 2010, 17:46

JAPAN OPEN 2010 SKATERS / Version of Last Season 【MAD】on JAM Project
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